1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:06,690 the oldest and strongest human emotion 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:10,450 is fear the oldest and strongest type of 3 00:00:17,609 --> 00:00:15,130 fear the trepidation of young when we 4 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:17,619 were children our parents told us that 5 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:21,250 monsters didn't exist but we were sure 6 00:00:28,349 --> 00:00:24,190 that something is lurking under the bed 7 00:00:30,290 --> 00:00:28,359 or in the closet beer seats even if our 8 00:00:34,020 --> 00:00:30,300 eyes are closed 9 00:00:37,020 --> 00:00:34,030 welcome to the realm of your cane my 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:37,030 name is LAN stripper join me as I 11 00:00:42,210 --> 00:00:39,250 examine unexplained creatures 12 00:00:46,469 --> 00:00:42,220 strange manifestations and remarkable 13 00:00:49,610 --> 00:00:46,479 realities imagine this next hour as a 14 00:00:53,189 --> 00:00:49,620 voyage of discovered to strange lands 15 00:00:55,950 --> 00:00:53,199 seeking not for new territory but for 16 00:00:58,380 --> 00:00:55,960 new knowledge of the supernatural come 17 00:00:59,880 --> 00:00:58,390 on board as we begin this adventure 18 00:01:04,670 --> 00:00:59,890 together 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,850 you 20 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:10,410 hey folks good evening and welcome to 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:12,970 another episode of arcane radio where we 22 00:01:17,100 --> 00:01:15,130 explore the unexplained here on the 23 00:01:19,380 --> 00:01:17,110 paranormal king radio network 24 00:01:21,749 --> 00:01:19,390 I'm your host launch director coming to 25 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:21,759 you with a cannon shot of historic 26 00:01:26,340 --> 00:01:23,530 Gettysburg in the Krypton mecca of 27 00:01:30,870 --> 00:01:26,350 Pennsylvania I thank you for joining me 28 00:01:34,399 --> 00:01:30,880 now before I introduce our guests I want 29 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:34,409 to mention that during the past week the 30 00:01:41,190 --> 00:01:37,840 fans of monsters 40 research team has 31 00:01:44,460 --> 00:01:41,200 once again been made aware of two more 32 00:01:46,969 --> 00:01:44,470 winged humanoid encounter reports near 33 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:46,979 the Chicago's O'Hare International and 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:50,110 that makes a total of four reports in 35 00:01:56,580 --> 00:01:53,050 three weeks originating from the same 36 00:02:00,109 --> 00:01:56,590 general general area northeast of the 37 00:02:02,669 --> 00:02:00,119 airport now like I stated previously 38 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:02,679 there has been a recent uptick of 39 00:02:07,469 --> 00:02:04,690 sightings in the Chicagoland area 40 00:02:11,789 --> 00:02:07,479 so make sure you check the blog daily 41 00:02:15,509 --> 00:02:11,799 for all updates now I recently received 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:15,519 a telephone call from a gentleman out 43 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:19,090 I'll call he came in reference to a 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:21,489 multiple Bigfoot sighting he had in 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:25,570 mid-august 2019 he was in the process of 46 00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:28,090 helping a friend move from Tennessee to 47 00:02:32,490 --> 00:02:30,670 Perry County Missouri now when they 48 00:02:35,849 --> 00:02:32,500 reached her destination the new 49 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:35,859 residence was in a real section of Perry 50 00:02:42,030 --> 00:02:38,290 County Missouri it was approximately 51 00:02:44,550 --> 00:02:42,040 6:30 a.m. local time the dawn light was 52 00:02:46,830 --> 00:02:44,560 just beginning to creep through the 53 00:02:50,060 --> 00:02:46,840 house was near a neighbor's larger house 54 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:50,070 which had a crowd with horses behind it 55 00:02:56,370 --> 00:02:52,750 now iki was beginning to unload 56 00:02:58,199 --> 00:02:56,380 furniture and when his friend when his 57 00:03:00,420 --> 00:02:58,209 friend pointed in the direction of the 58 00:03:03,030 --> 00:03:00,430 corral and mentioned that there was 59 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:03,040 movement in the woods behind it now he 60 00:03:08,069 --> 00:03:05,049 can't paused and looked in the direction 61 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:08,079 of the crowd he noticed the movement as 62 00:03:14,069 --> 00:03:11,470 well but was unsure what he was looking 63 00:03:16,729 --> 00:03:14,079 at he began to walk towards the crowd 64 00:03:19,530 --> 00:03:16,739 while remaining on his friends property 65 00:03:20,730 --> 00:03:19,540 he continued to watch as the morning 66 00:03:24,930 --> 00:03:20,740 light became bright 67 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:24,940 he distinct distinctly observed for 68 00:03:30,740 --> 00:03:28,210 hairy conical heads and shoulders 69 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:30,750 bobbing up along the edge of the woods 70 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:33,850 then a horse's act is somewhat mindful 71 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:36,370 of the activity but did not act afraid 72 00:03:43,260 --> 00:03:39,670 and he k was surprised how quickly these 73 00:03:46,350 --> 00:03:43,270 beings were moving about now he told me 74 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:46,360 that he watched the movement for for 75 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:48,130 about twenty to thirty minutes 76 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:50,530 but was unable to get a decent 77 00:03:55,650 --> 00:03:53,530 photograph now he was positive that he 78 00:03:57,450 --> 00:03:55,660 was properly focusing on the heads and 79 00:04:00,090 --> 00:03:57,460 shoulders which were the only parts 80 00:04:03,270 --> 00:04:00,100 visible but nothing discernible was in 81 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:03,280 the images there was distinctive grunts 82 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:04,690 and heavy breathing coming from 83 00:04:09,690 --> 00:04:07,450 direction of this Big Foot group now he 84 00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:09,700 has been a Bigfoot enthusiast for many 85 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:12,580 years and then and is positive that 86 00:04:16,650 --> 00:04:14,830 these were Bigfoot even though he has 87 00:04:18,740 --> 00:04:16,660 never investigated the phenomena he 88 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:18,750 believes that this was a family group 89 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:22,000 consisting with a large male a smaller 90 00:04:27,690 --> 00:04:25,840 female and possibly two juveniles now 91 00:04:30,690 --> 00:04:27,700 Ikki was very excited about what he had 92 00:04:32,910 --> 00:04:30,700 seen and is searching for a way to prove 93 00:04:34,530 --> 00:04:32,920 what he had witnessed I offered my 94 00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:34,540 assistance and hopefully he'll be able 95 00:04:39,090 --> 00:04:36,820 to gather photographic evidence in the 96 00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:39,100 future and he is mindful that full 97 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:41,710 disclosure of the location would be 98 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:43,810 somewhat detrimental to these Bigfoot 99 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:46,090 and has no intention of cause these 100 00:04:50,310 --> 00:04:48,970 creatures any harm so that was an 101 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:50,320 interesting account 102 00:04:56,340 --> 00:04:52,560 I actually just received that last night 103 00:04:58,440 --> 00:04:56,350 so let's go ahead and get started with 104 00:05:02,490 --> 00:04:58,450 the show tonight I welcome Alaska 105 00:05:05,340 --> 00:05:02,500 Bigfoot researcher Larry beans Baxter - 106 00:05:07,130 --> 00:05:05,350 arcane radio now born in Kentucky Larry 107 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:07,140 is a military and law enforcement 108 00:05:12,780 --> 00:05:10,210 veteran with a passion for investigating 109 00:05:15,650 --> 00:05:12,790 the unexplained he's joined the military 110 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:15,660 in his 20s and was stationed in Alaska 111 00:05:21,450 --> 00:05:18,610 beans fell in love Alaska admitted his 112 00:05:23,310 --> 00:05:21,460 own living in Alaska beans has spent 113 00:05:25,860 --> 00:05:23,320 several years investigating the Bigfoot 114 00:05:29,310 --> 00:05:25,870 phenomena as well as the abandoned town 115 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:29,320 of Port Chatham Alaska he is a member of 116 00:05:34,290 --> 00:05:33,150 the Kenai Bigfoot research group so 117 00:05:36,029 --> 00:05:34,300 being 118 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:36,039 thanks for joining me this evening hey 119 00:05:42,059 --> 00:05:37,690 thanks for having me online I appreciate 120 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:42,069 it so I got a chance today to watch a 121 00:05:53,149 --> 00:05:44,409 film you were in I think was probably 122 00:06:00,260 --> 00:05:56,610 phenomenom okay can you kind of tell us 123 00:06:02,059 --> 00:06:00,270 the story about what had been supposedly 124 00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:02,069 going on there 125 00:06:09,330 --> 00:06:04,870 yeah well porch atham has a really 126 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:09,340 interesting history here in Alaska there 127 00:06:13,339 --> 00:06:11,409 were two communities there is located on 128 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:13,349 the southern tip of the Kenai Peninsula 129 00:06:19,830 --> 00:06:16,560 kind of in south-central Alaska and 130 00:06:21,450 --> 00:06:19,840 there were two communities there one 131 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:21,460 called Portlock which was named for 132 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:23,110 captain Nathaniel Portlock with the 133 00:06:30,110 --> 00:06:25,930 British Navy and then port Chatham which 134 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:30,120 was named for the area port chaplain and 135 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:34,409 there's a lot of history there with 136 00:06:39,779 --> 00:06:38,080 resources you know most people if you 137 00:06:41,999 --> 00:06:39,789 look up or Chatham you'll hear about the 138 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:42,009 the the cannery was that was there the 139 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:44,529 fish cannery but there was a lot of 140 00:06:47,969 --> 00:06:45,849 other stuff going on there that people 141 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:47,979 don't really know about 142 00:06:53,580 --> 00:06:50,080 there was a chromite mine there that 143 00:06:56,610 --> 00:06:53,590 produced a lot of chromite for the World 144 00:07:00,360 --> 00:06:56,620 War one there was also a coal mine there 145 00:07:01,950 --> 00:07:00,370 and a bunch of little sawmills that you 146 00:07:04,559 --> 00:07:01,960 know harvested the lumber around the 147 00:07:07,469 --> 00:07:04,569 area so the area is really rich in 148 00:07:09,450 --> 00:07:07,479 natural resources and not not just the 149 00:07:12,559 --> 00:07:09,460 fish there that you know they were 150 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:12,569 harvesting for the cannery and so 151 00:07:18,510 --> 00:07:15,610 naturally you know people moved in there 152 00:07:22,490 --> 00:07:18,520 and they started collecting the natural 153 00:07:26,790 --> 00:07:24,540 probably an you know about the night in 154 00:07:29,390 --> 00:07:26,800 the early 1900's people started 155 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:29,400 realizing that something wasn't right 156 00:07:35,999 --> 00:07:31,810 most of the workers at the cannery were 157 00:07:37,619 --> 00:07:36,009 local Aleut natives and they just they 158 00:07:39,540 --> 00:07:37,629 noticed things were not right they were 159 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:39,550 going into the woods to hunt people were 160 00:07:43,980 --> 00:07:42,820 disappearing and in 1905 the the cannery 161 00:07:45,329 --> 00:07:43,990 workers just kind of threw their hands 162 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:45,339 up says we're not doing this anymore you 163 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:47,840 know it's not safe and they 164 00:07:51,940 --> 00:07:49,630 basically quit they went on strike and 165 00:07:56,470 --> 00:07:51,950 the owners of the cannery they finally 166 00:07:59,230 --> 00:07:56,480 relented and hired armed guards to guard 167 00:08:01,270 --> 00:07:59,240 the cannery and the workers to keep them 168 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:01,280 safe from what the natives call a nom de 169 00:08:07,390 --> 00:08:04,100 NOC there's not really a good 170 00:08:08,890 --> 00:08:07,400 translation from the native language to 171 00:08:12,490 --> 00:08:08,900 English for what the non Tanakh means 172 00:08:14,409 --> 00:08:12,500 most of the translators translation is 173 00:08:19,150 --> 00:08:14,419 big hairy thing or hairy hairy man-like 174 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:19,160 thing so they hired some armed guards 175 00:08:24,610 --> 00:08:20,720 the workers came back and things were 176 00:08:27,940 --> 00:08:24,620 okay for a few years and again you know 177 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:27,950 in the 1930s people began to disappear 178 00:08:32,790 --> 00:08:29,570 again there was a gentleman named Andrew 179 00:08:34,930 --> 00:08:32,800 camlock he was he ran a little lumber or 180 00:08:38,019 --> 00:08:34,940 sawmill he had a little lumberjack 181 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:38,029 operation going on he disappeared they 182 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:39,919 went up into the woods to look for him 183 00:08:44,950 --> 00:08:42,650 found him dead he was you know killed by 184 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:44,960 a large piece of machinery that they 185 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:48,170 said that a human couldn't lift and the 186 00:08:53,530 --> 00:08:51,410 people were scared so you know they 187 00:08:56,140 --> 00:08:53,540 chalked this up to the to the net not to 188 00:08:57,610 --> 00:08:56,150 not creature you know there's there's 189 00:08:58,990 --> 00:08:57,620 other things in the woods there as well 190 00:09:01,780 --> 00:08:59,000 you know there's plenty of moose and 191 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:01,790 bear it is Alaska but just you know the 192 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:03,680 manner that these people were killed and 193 00:09:07,329 --> 00:09:05,690 and the things that were being you know 194 00:09:11,230 --> 00:09:07,339 50 gallon drums were being you know 195 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:11,240 tossed around and people were convinced 196 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:12,320 it was an anti-knock and they were 197 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:19,490 scared so eventually you know after 198 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:22,640 enough people disappeared the town got 199 00:09:27,070 --> 00:09:24,230 together and they just decided they were 200 00:09:28,990 --> 00:09:27,080 gonna leave so they wha they I think it 201 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:29,000 was 1950 the last resident was a 202 00:09:34,329 --> 00:09:32,570 postmaster and he packed up in left in 203 00:09:36,220 --> 00:09:34,339 1950 and that was it the town was just 204 00:09:39,340 --> 00:09:36,230 left to be abandoned they left all the 205 00:09:41,079 --> 00:09:39,350 cannery equipment there you know there's 206 00:09:43,870 --> 00:09:41,089 houses still that are still standing not 207 00:09:46,060 --> 00:09:43,880 too many but a few and they just left it 208 00:09:48,850 --> 00:09:46,070 to the elements and if you go there now 209 00:09:51,579 --> 00:09:48,860 you can see pieces of the cannery are 210 00:09:54,310 --> 00:09:51,589 starting to fall off the cliffs from the 211 00:09:56,140 --> 00:09:54,320 erosion and you can just see the the 212 00:09:58,060 --> 00:09:56,150 pieces of machinery littered along the 213 00:10:00,460 --> 00:09:58,070 beach it's actually pretty pretty cool 214 00:10:01,780 --> 00:10:00,470 it's pretty surreal and it's it's an 215 00:10:03,870 --> 00:10:01,790 amazing place I've never seen thing 216 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:03,880 like it to see a place that was once 217 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:06,290 basically a hub of Natural Resources 218 00:10:10,650 --> 00:10:09,050 production just to be left and you know 219 00:10:13,660 --> 00:10:10,660 that's not something you see a whole lot 220 00:10:14,980 --> 00:10:13,670 you know in in human history you know 221 00:10:16,570 --> 00:10:14,990 with mines and stuff you'll see those 222 00:10:18,670 --> 00:10:16,580 talents for mines you know because the 223 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:18,680 mine will play out and people leave 224 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:21,410 because there's no more resources but 225 00:10:27,310 --> 00:10:23,600 you know with the fish they they never 226 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:27,320 went anywhere you know the the cannery 227 00:10:32,950 --> 00:10:29,990 should still be going today and this is 228 00:10:34,690 --> 00:10:32,960 one of the few times in human history 229 00:10:37,180 --> 00:10:34,700 where you can look and say that you know 230 00:10:38,830 --> 00:10:37,190 progress was pushed back that you know 231 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:38,840 the people were scared out of there 232 00:10:45,820 --> 00:10:41,870 and you know people are still avoided 233 00:10:48,570 --> 00:10:45,830 today uh-huh yeah you are you were 234 00:10:54,190 --> 00:10:48,580 involved with production with extreme 235 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:54,200 expeditions Steven tee major he produced 236 00:11:00,910 --> 00:10:56,930 the in search of the poor Chatham Harry 237 00:11:04,590 --> 00:11:00,920 man and I watched that film today and 238 00:11:07,390 --> 00:11:04,600 it's interesting it's quite interesting 239 00:11:10,930 --> 00:11:07,400 do you have any idea of any other 240 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:10,940 serious investigations in the area 241 00:11:17,050 --> 00:11:14,090 previous to when you guys were there no 242 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:17,060 and you know there's a few good reasons 243 00:11:23,860 --> 00:11:21,410 for that long you know one it's hard to 244 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:23,870 get to Alaska it's kind of expensive you 245 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:26,240 know you got to get on a plane and fly 246 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:28,640 up here and then once you get to Alaska 247 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:30,320 you got to get the porch a foam now 248 00:11:33,820 --> 00:11:32,570 there's this is an interesting fact you 249 00:11:37,270 --> 00:11:33,830 know from where I'm sitting right now 250 00:11:39,370 --> 00:11:37,280 talking to you I am about 44 air miles 251 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:39,380 from Port Chatham it's like 40 miles 252 00:11:44,590 --> 00:11:42,530 away it's not far at all but to get 253 00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:44,600 there it would probably cost me a couple 254 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:45,710 thousand dollars because I'd have to 255 00:11:48,970 --> 00:11:47,450 charter a boat to go there nobody wants 256 00:11:50,530 --> 00:11:48,980 to go there I got to find a you know a 257 00:11:53,500 --> 00:11:50,540 boat captain it's willing to go in there 258 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:53,510 and take me there so you know it's not 259 00:11:58,210 --> 00:11:55,370 it's not a place that's easy to get to 260 00:12:02,020 --> 00:11:58,220 it takes a lot of resources and planning 261 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:02,030 to get there mm yeah I I kind of figured 262 00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:05,090 that out by watching the watching the 263 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:07,100 film I mean he was like a six-hour ride 264 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:11,090 on a boat so yeah he had to cross a lot 265 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:13,630 of were to get just 40 miles from you 266 00:12:16,010 --> 00:12:14,910 yeah 267 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:16,020 you know and a lot of people that are 268 00:12:18,740 --> 00:12:17,580 critical of the film are like well why 269 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:18,750 didn't they do this or why didn't they 270 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:20,940 take that or why didn't they you know do 271 00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:23,010 this or that and you got to understand 272 00:12:26,180 --> 00:12:24,750 we were you know limited with our time 273 00:12:27,890 --> 00:12:26,190 to be there because literally time was 274 00:12:30,050 --> 00:12:27,900 money because we had to pay for the boat 275 00:12:31,460 --> 00:12:30,060 to be there and to you know we were 276 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:31,470 limited pretty much by what we could 277 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:33,690 carry you know we couldn't take a whole 278 00:12:38,570 --> 00:12:37,050 lot of heavy stuff in there so right it 279 00:12:41,090 --> 00:12:38,580 was it was the best we could do with 280 00:12:44,540 --> 00:12:41,100 what we had and it was the first as far 281 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:44,550 as I know big for research that was done 282 00:12:51,260 --> 00:12:48,330 on the ground there well the the thing 283 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:51,270 that impressed me most of all was you 284 00:12:58,490 --> 00:12:53,940 everybody that would watch this would 285 00:13:02,780 --> 00:12:58,500 get a very good idea of the terrain for 286 00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:02,790 one thing it's very thick now you've got 287 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:04,830 I don't know what kind of pines those 288 00:13:10,460 --> 00:13:06,150 are that are in there 289 00:13:12,820 --> 00:13:10,470 but they have low branches and they've 290 00:13:16,850 --> 00:13:12,830 got to be a pain to get through and 291 00:13:19,610 --> 00:13:16,860 you've got very thick moss on the on the 292 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:19,620 ground that seems to shift every time 293 00:13:26,150 --> 00:13:22,650 you walk on it it does seem very 294 00:13:28,990 --> 00:13:26,160 inhospitable for anybody let alone the 295 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:29,000 people that had lived there at one time 296 00:13:35,540 --> 00:13:32,720 yeah and it's been set in there since 297 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:35,550 1950 so you know it's natures 298 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:37,680 I'm sure at one point they probably had 299 00:13:42,950 --> 00:13:41,730 trails and roads and not necessarily 300 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:42,960 paved ones but they had you know 301 00:13:48,530 --> 00:13:44,910 pathways and stuff and all that's all 302 00:13:51,470 --> 00:13:48,540 grown up now and the terrain is just 303 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:51,480 it's primordial I can't it's like 304 00:13:54,940 --> 00:13:53,250 something out of Jurassic Park and that 305 00:13:56,990 --> 00:13:54,950 was one of the problems that we ran into 306 00:13:59,210 --> 00:13:57,000 especially in some of the areas we were 307 00:14:01,970 --> 00:13:59,220 at because the ground was so soft and 308 00:14:04,460 --> 00:14:01,980 spongy that it didn't really lend itself 309 00:14:06,190 --> 00:14:04,470 to tracking very well we did see a few 310 00:14:08,450 --> 00:14:06,200 impressions that were pretty impressive 311 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:08,460 but we couldn't really cast them just 312 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:11,220 because it was in this that spongy moss 313 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:14,370 so it was kind of a disappointment to me 314 00:14:20,180 --> 00:14:16,200 to find I found a really nice 14 inch 315 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:20,190 track and I you know I was it just could 316 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:21,690 not I could not photograph it the way I 317 00:14:27,050 --> 00:14:24,510 want I cannot tell you or show you how 318 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:27,060 awesome that that imprint was because 319 00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:28,889 just from every angle I was full 320 00:14:32,629 --> 00:14:30,660 graphing it from I couldn't get it to 321 00:14:33,889 --> 00:14:32,639 show up I was using all the tricks I 322 00:14:37,099 --> 00:14:33,899 knew I'm trying to use like oblique 323 00:14:38,569 --> 00:14:37,109 lighting to get it to show up and it was 324 00:14:39,829 --> 00:14:38,579 it was something you know it was one of 325 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:39,839 the few times I've ever looked out the 326 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:42,089 ground and you know we're like holy you 327 00:14:45,889 --> 00:14:43,920 know curse word you know that was 328 00:14:47,419 --> 00:14:45,899 impressive yeah you had been lucky 329 00:14:51,319 --> 00:14:47,429 enough to find a mud hole somewhere 330 00:14:54,590 --> 00:14:51,329 because uh there wasn't many there and I 331 00:14:57,189 --> 00:14:54,600 I did happen to see the photograph I 332 00:14:59,419 --> 00:14:57,199 think you got three very distinct two 333 00:15:04,970 --> 00:14:59,429 impressions but it did seem like a 334 00:15:08,119 --> 00:15:04,980 pretty good-sized human-like foot yeah 335 00:15:11,059 --> 00:15:08,129 and you know that was the area where we 336 00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:11,069 heard a lot of movement and you know 337 00:15:14,210 --> 00:15:12,720 like you pointed out the brush was so 338 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:14,220 thick we could have had something you 339 00:15:17,539 --> 00:15:16,169 know just a few feet from us and we 340 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:17,549 would have never known it oh I doubt 341 00:15:22,369 --> 00:15:19,470 literally there there were several times 342 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:22,379 where we would walk around a bend or 343 00:15:25,369 --> 00:15:23,850 something and we would just hear just 344 00:15:27,169 --> 00:15:25,379 just ahead of us just far enough to 345 00:15:28,789 --> 00:15:27,179 where we couldn't see we'd hear a thump 346 00:15:30,739 --> 00:15:28,799 you know something running away a thump 347 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:30,749 thump thump them and we couldn't really 348 00:15:36,019 --> 00:15:33,809 tell if it was bipedal or not you know 349 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:36,029 we did see some signs of bear and other 350 00:15:41,389 --> 00:15:39,209 animals but in my experience you know 351 00:15:43,699 --> 00:15:41,399 bears don't you know they don't they 352 00:15:45,379 --> 00:15:43,709 don't make a thumping sound like that 353 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:45,389 one they run away they're you know they 354 00:15:50,749 --> 00:15:46,769 usually they're pretty light on their 355 00:15:52,579 --> 00:15:50,759 feet actually yeah yeah I noticed that 356 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:52,589 myself I've seen plenty of bears running 357 00:15:58,519 --> 00:15:55,290 off and you it's very rare to hear I'm 358 00:16:00,590 --> 00:15:58,529 even in even in a dry wood just you just 359 00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:00,600 don't hear a lot of it they do seem to 360 00:16:04,369 --> 00:16:02,399 be kind of light on their feet like a 361 00:16:07,639 --> 00:16:04,379 cushion under the feet when they're 362 00:16:11,449 --> 00:16:07,649 running so in that environment with that 363 00:16:13,579 --> 00:16:11,459 spongy ground I can imagine it'd be very 364 00:16:16,699 --> 00:16:13,589 difficult to hear them you'd had to have 365 00:16:19,129 --> 00:16:16,709 a lot of weight forcing down for you to 366 00:16:21,139 --> 00:16:19,139 hear something running off now I mean 367 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:21,149 speaking of that in that one area that 368 00:16:29,509 --> 00:16:25,730 you were in at the end of the first day 369 00:16:34,009 --> 00:16:29,519 where you caught the FLIR of something 370 00:16:36,889 --> 00:16:34,019 that looked humanoid I tell you I've 371 00:16:39,829 --> 00:16:36,899 seen a lot of FLIR a Bigfoot or I 372 00:16:41,629 --> 00:16:39,839 suppose a Bigfoot and I think that's 373 00:16:42,710 --> 00:16:41,639 probably one of the best ones I've seen 374 00:16:45,290 --> 00:16:42,720 because this 375 00:16:47,749 --> 00:16:45,300 thing had the right shape to it it was 376 00:16:52,249 --> 00:16:47,759 bipedal and this thing was raising his 377 00:16:56,689 --> 00:16:52,259 arms above its head and moving away so I 378 00:17:00,519 --> 00:16:56,699 don't know IIIi really do believe you 379 00:17:03,319 --> 00:17:00,529 did capture one yeah and you know 380 00:17:06,020 --> 00:17:03,329 hindsight is 20/20 and curse of 381 00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:06,030 Sasquatch and all that I I actually got 382 00:17:09,949 --> 00:17:07,919 a lot better look at it in the FLIR than 383 00:17:11,750 --> 00:17:09,959 what you see on the video I actually 384 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:11,760 watched it for several seconds before I 385 00:17:17,179 --> 00:17:13,970 finally was like oh I got a hit record 386 00:17:21,039 --> 00:17:17,189 but the best I could describe it as if 387 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:21,049 it looked like Donkey Kong from the 388 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:23,610 video game it looked like Donkey Kong 389 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:27,209 was standin you know standing there just 390 00:17:32,090 --> 00:17:29,490 lifting his hands up and down her his 391 00:17:34,490 --> 00:17:32,100 arms up and down over his head and I 392 00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:34,500 thought huh that's weird and I think 393 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:35,880 just about everybody that went with us 394 00:17:38,419 --> 00:17:36,900 saw it because we're sitting there 395 00:17:41,029 --> 00:17:38,429 passing the FLIR around like what the 396 00:17:43,010 --> 00:17:41,039 hell is that you know and yeah I finally 397 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:43,020 hit the record button but it seemed like 398 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:45,330 it was moving away from us I don't I 399 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:47,510 don't think it liked us be in there and 400 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:49,890 it seemed to be moving away from us and 401 00:17:53,060 --> 00:17:52,049 we tried to catch up with it but you 402 00:17:55,340 --> 00:17:53,070 know you'll have you have to watch the 403 00:17:57,409 --> 00:17:55,350 movie to see what happens yeah you know 404 00:18:00,799 --> 00:17:57,419 I know the part another phenomena I 405 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:00,809 thought was very interesting was the 406 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:03,690 area has a lot of wild blueberry bushes 407 00:18:09,020 --> 00:18:05,760 the whole way through it from what I 408 00:18:13,549 --> 00:18:09,030 could see on the film and you guys made 409 00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:13,559 note of it seemed that one part what the 410 00:18:17,390 --> 00:18:15,510 blueberries were eating off the bushes 411 00:18:21,260 --> 00:18:17,400 and you got a lot of bears in the area 412 00:18:23,270 --> 00:18:21,270 but it seems like the other part I mean 413 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:23,280 all the berries are still on the bushes 414 00:18:29,419 --> 00:18:26,610 and you know it has to make you think 415 00:18:31,700 --> 00:18:29,429 well maybe these bears aren't going over 416 00:18:35,419 --> 00:18:31,710 the other side for a reason 417 00:18:38,899 --> 00:18:35,429 maybe there's a territorial didn't dent 418 00:18:41,230 --> 00:18:38,909 elation or something I mean they stay 419 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:41,240 out of in their own territory 420 00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:43,770 exactly lawn it was it was almost like 421 00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:45,679 there was an invisible partitioned 422 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:48,270 through that part of the woods were on 423 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:51,000 one side you know there was lots of bear 424 00:18:54,860 --> 00:18:51,360 scat 425 00:18:56,450 --> 00:18:54,870 lots of bear sign and just he stripped 426 00:18:58,100 --> 00:18:56,460 berry bushes that 427 00:18:59,450 --> 00:18:58,110 had been pretty much picked clean you 428 00:19:02,540 --> 00:18:59,460 know there'd be a berry here or there 429 00:19:05,390 --> 00:19:02,550 and then on the other side there was no 430 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:05,400 bear scat no bear sign or anything and 431 00:19:10,130 --> 00:19:08,370 the bushes were just full and and 432 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:10,140 berries just dropped dropping off of 433 00:19:14,690 --> 00:19:13,530 them and I think you know I wasn't the 434 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:14,700 only one that got the impression that 435 00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:16,770 maybe there was an invisible barrier 436 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:19,200 there that you know that maybe those 437 00:19:27,020 --> 00:19:23,360 full bushes belong to somebody else yeah 438 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:27,030 yeah I mean it's an interesting film I 439 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:30,090 mean I there are a few things that come 440 00:19:34,370 --> 00:19:31,980 up in it that really make you think I 441 00:19:37,100 --> 00:19:34,380 mean overall what was your impression of 442 00:19:38,270 --> 00:19:37,110 it did you did you learn much from it is 443 00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:38,280 this something that you're going to be 444 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:41,760 able to use in further research well I 445 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:44,370 think the most important thing I learned 446 00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:47,610 from it was just how rugged the terrain 447 00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:49,590 is over there and you know I want to I 448 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:51,120 want to go back over there eventually 449 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:54,510 and and do some more research but you 450 00:19:58,010 --> 00:19:56,490 know that that initial trip over there 451 00:20:00,020 --> 00:19:58,020 just really taught me just how rough 452 00:20:01,490 --> 00:20:00,030 it's gonna be and you know I'm gonna 453 00:20:05,810 --> 00:20:01,500 have to get in better shape for one 454 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:05,820 thing and I'm gonna just yeah I'm just 455 00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:06,930 gonna have to take some better equipment 456 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:09,120 and just be prepared for that terrain 457 00:20:12,290 --> 00:20:10,890 because I hadn't been there actually I 458 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:12,300 don't none of us had been there so we 459 00:20:17,450 --> 00:20:14,790 weren't quite sure what to expect so 460 00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:17,460 getting there and just getting boots on 461 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:18,840 the ground and seeing what it was like 462 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,970 and what we got to contend with was 463 00:20:25,370 --> 00:20:22,320 probably the the biggest learning 464 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:25,380 experience for me and I can't wait to 465 00:20:29,660 --> 00:20:27,570 get back over there and you know look 466 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:29,670 around some more and hopefully get a 467 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:32,850 better sighting like I not very many 468 00:20:37,310 --> 00:20:35,130 people go there so I think what you know 469 00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:37,320 the Bigfoot that are over there probably 470 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:39,360 aren't too used to humans so I think you 471 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:40,650 probably got a pretty good chance of 472 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,130 having a sighting over there mm yeah let 473 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:46,080 alone the bears and the moose and I'll 474 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:47,490 tell you I've had an encounter with a 475 00:20:58,820 --> 00:20:53,970 moose and that is not fun they they are 476 00:21:00,500 --> 00:20:58,830 quite amazing and huge animals and they 477 00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,510 don't have a fondness for people so you 478 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:02,400 really take your chances doing it and of 479 00:21:08,419 --> 00:21:04,050 course you guys were really wanted to 480 00:21:10,639 --> 00:21:08,429 the teeth I mean and I can't blame you 481 00:21:13,970 --> 00:21:10,649 yeah you know when it comes to a whole 482 00:21:15,350 --> 00:21:13,980 Pro kill no kill thing I'm I'm Pro kill 483 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:15,360 but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm 484 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:17,490 gonna be the one that does it yeah yeah 485 00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:19,710 I I think it's gonna take a body to 486 00:21:24,919 --> 00:21:23,460 prove it but at the same time I don't 487 00:21:26,869 --> 00:21:24,929 think I would shoot one unless it was 488 00:21:30,259 --> 00:21:26,879 acting threatening to warden it was it 489 00:21:31,970 --> 00:21:30,269 was self-defense yeah but yeah you know 490 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:31,980 we got a lot more than just Bigfoot to 491 00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:33,360 worry about up here you know there's 492 00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:35,340 almost every year there we have at least 493 00:21:39,350 --> 00:21:37,889 one or two bear maulings there's been 494 00:21:42,109 --> 00:21:39,360 several on the peninsula here where I 495 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:42,119 live so you know it's just it's just 496 00:21:46,730 --> 00:21:43,440 better to have it and not need it than 497 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:46,740 need it and not have it so I you know 498 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:49,049 being I was tasked with security for the 499 00:21:51,950 --> 00:21:50,730 expedition because you know I've been in 500 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:51,960 the military and I worked in law 501 00:21:56,869 --> 00:21:54,960 enforcement so I wanted to be able to 502 00:21:59,930 --> 00:21:56,879 handle you know whatever threat that we 503 00:22:01,730 --> 00:21:59,940 face so we had you know a shotgun with 504 00:22:05,989 --> 00:22:01,740 some pretty good slugs in it and you 505 00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:05,999 know my 44 Magnum so that's you know 506 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:07,799 that's just the reality of it here in 507 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:09,210 Alaska there's things here that will 508 00:22:17,509 --> 00:22:14,129 kill you if they can all right so what 509 00:22:19,129 --> 00:22:17,519 got you into Bigfoot well you know I've 510 00:22:22,820 --> 00:22:19,139 always been into it ever since I was a 511 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:22,830 little kid I can't point to one specific 512 00:22:29,629 --> 00:22:27,210 thing or incident that you know got me 513 00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:29,639 into it I used to remember the Weekly 514 00:22:35,659 --> 00:22:31,830 World News that that newspaper were the 515 00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:35,669 you know yeah when I was a kid you know 516 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:37,320 my mom would buy that at the checkout 517 00:22:40,820 --> 00:22:39,090 stand and I would read the articles in 518 00:22:42,859 --> 00:22:40,830 there and I clip them out and keep home 519 00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:42,869 and you know I was really into like 520 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:44,460 Ghost Busters and stuff when I was a kid 521 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:46,049 so I've always been you know interested 522 00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:47,730 in the paranormal and drawn toward that 523 00:22:53,090 --> 00:22:50,340 and Bigfoot was kind of extension of 524 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,100 that and moving up here in Alaska it 525 00:22:57,859 --> 00:22:54,960 just it was almost just like a natural 526 00:22:59,600 --> 00:22:57,869 you know like well what there what can I 527 00:23:01,970 --> 00:22:59,610 investigate up here and Bigfoot seem to 528 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:01,980 be the natural choice and it was always 529 00:23:05,180 --> 00:23:03,330 something that I kind of thought like 530 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:05,190 well I'll do it when I retire you know 531 00:23:09,859 --> 00:23:07,049 I'll do it when I got nothing but time 532 00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:09,869 and I just I kind of decided a couple of 533 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:12,360 years ago that you know I better start 534 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,610 now because you don't always get you're 535 00:23:17,539 --> 00:23:16,320 not always around to do the things you 536 00:23:19,310 --> 00:23:17,549 want to do and it was something I really 537 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:19,320 wanted to do so I figured I better get 538 00:23:22,990 --> 00:23:21,170 it do it while the doing was good 539 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:23,000 and so I kind of come out of the Bigfoot 540 00:23:27,670 --> 00:23:25,970 closet and and kind of started to do 541 00:23:30,370 --> 00:23:27,680 research up here 542 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:30,380 you know in a more public light so yeah 543 00:23:33,490 --> 00:23:31,370 it's just something I've always been 544 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:33,500 drawn to I can't really point to one 545 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:37,210 incident though have you had any 546 00:23:44,650 --> 00:23:40,730 interesting encounters yeah I've had a 547 00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:44,660 few really the first thing I think of it 548 00:23:50,380 --> 00:23:46,580 was a 2000 I came over the year might 549 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:50,390 have been 2014 or so I went to an area 550 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,890 where there had been some encounters not 551 00:23:57,190 --> 00:23:53,360 port Chatham but it was here on the 552 00:24:00,460 --> 00:23:57,200 Kenai Peninsula and I found a pretty a 553 00:24:01,870 --> 00:24:00,470 pretty decent track and I thought man I 554 00:24:04,330 --> 00:24:01,880 got a I got to come back and check this 555 00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:04,340 place out some more and I went back 556 00:24:08,020 --> 00:24:05,660 there a couple of months later and my 557 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:08,030 wife was with me for this one and we 558 00:24:11,230 --> 00:24:09,290 were in about the same area where I 559 00:24:12,670 --> 00:24:11,240 found the track and again you know we 560 00:24:14,110 --> 00:24:12,680 heard this like thump thump thump you 561 00:24:17,020 --> 00:24:14,120 know something was running away from us 562 00:24:18,550 --> 00:24:17,030 and we couldn't we couldn't figure out 563 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:18,560 what it was I went looking for it there 564 00:24:22,780 --> 00:24:20,210 was no bear scat no moose scat in the 565 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:22,790 area and because I found that track 566 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:25,070 there you know earlier I think that 567 00:24:30,610 --> 00:24:28,370 probably that was a area that there was 568 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:30,620 a Bigfoot living and I've went back 569 00:24:36,580 --> 00:24:32,930 there several times and have it had 570 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:36,590 anything else happen but I think here in 571 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:39,290 Alaska your best chance of having a 572 00:24:44,830 --> 00:24:40,910 sighting or encounter is probably like 573 00:24:46,270 --> 00:24:44,840 late spring or early fall I don't think 574 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:46,280 they're around a lot in the summertime 575 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:48,290 when the tourists are around I think 576 00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:52,010 they they go they go to ground in the in 577 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:53,360 the tourist season and they come out 578 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:55,970 when the tourists leave it sounds kind 579 00:24:59,980 --> 00:24:57,890 of kind of funny but it's true 580 00:25:00,940 --> 00:24:59,990 you know people come down here they call 581 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:00,950 the Kenai Peninsula 582 00:25:06,670 --> 00:25:04,250 Alaska's playground right right because 583 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:06,680 people come down here to recreate and 584 00:25:09,670 --> 00:25:07,760 they're in the woods and they're on the 585 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:09,680 water and they're you know having fun 586 00:25:17,710 --> 00:25:13,250 and I think it drives the you know the 587 00:25:19,420 --> 00:25:17,720 shy wildlife away so those were probably 588 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:19,430 the two that kind of got me into this 589 00:25:23,170 --> 00:25:21,050 thinking hey there's something here you 590 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:23,180 know in Alaska that I can actually sink 591 00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:25,090 my teeth into and then do something with 592 00:25:29,740 --> 00:25:27,620 so that's kind of what started it all 593 00:25:32,410 --> 00:25:29,750 for me here in Alaska 594 00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:32,420 I mean at her a lot of stories but the 595 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:34,400 Kenai Peninsula in the Bigfoot 596 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:35,330 encounters 597 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:37,210 I mean I'd even heard stories about 598 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:40,490 children people being taken by these 599 00:25:46,330 --> 00:25:43,970 creatures but what's the the most 600 00:25:49,230 --> 00:25:46,340 interesting story that you can that 601 00:25:55,570 --> 00:25:49,240 you've heard that you can tell us now 602 00:25:58,900 --> 00:25:55,580 jeez I love I just I love almost the 603 00:26:00,780 --> 00:25:58,910 whole history of port Chatham but the 604 00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:00,790 one that probably interested me the most 605 00:26:05,470 --> 00:26:02,720 is the one I was talking about earlier 606 00:26:07,660 --> 00:26:05,480 mr. Andrew camlock that the guy that 607 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:07,670 died when he got hit by the piece of 608 00:26:12,970 --> 00:26:10,970 machinery I did a lot of research into 609 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:12,980 that and even though it happened in the 610 00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:15,710 1930s I thought you know here's here's 611 00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,870 you know I do a lot of investigations in 612 00:26:21,310 --> 00:26:19,520 my job so I thought this is something 613 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:21,320 I've got a name I've got a date this is 614 00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:24,950 something I can work with so I got into 615 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:27,710 the state records and I was trying to 616 00:26:30,820 --> 00:26:29,570 find the death certificate for mr. Kamla 617 00:26:33,070 --> 00:26:30,830 because if I could find the cause of 618 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:33,080 death and you know that would that would 619 00:26:38,590 --> 00:26:35,710 go a long way to proving the the story 620 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:38,600 so I did a quite a bit of research I 621 00:26:42,070 --> 00:26:39,890 actually had somebody at the state 622 00:26:43,390 --> 00:26:42,080 records office you know looking things 623 00:26:47,170 --> 00:26:43,400 up for me it's in Juneau so it's 624 00:26:48,940 --> 00:26:47,180 actually quite a ways away and I wasn't 625 00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:48,950 able to find his death certificate and I 626 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:51,860 think that's probably because you know a 627 00:26:54,610 --> 00:26:53,810 lot of this happens before statehood so 628 00:26:57,850 --> 00:26:54,620 there wasn't a lot of good 629 00:27:00,970 --> 00:26:57,860 record-keeping going on but I did find a 630 00:27:05,410 --> 00:27:00,980 death certificate for Andrew camlocks 631 00:27:08,350 --> 00:27:05,420 son who died some years later and 632 00:27:11,050 --> 00:27:08,360 Andrews name was listed on his son's 633 00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:11,060 death certificate as his father so there 634 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:13,100 was a gentleman named Andrew camlock 635 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:16,970 that was a alive in the 1930s that could 636 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:18,770 have been killed by the nantan ox so 637 00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:20,450 that was exciting for me was to find 638 00:27:25,570 --> 00:27:23,540 that yeah I don't to call it proof but 639 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:25,580 to find that validation that there's 640 00:27:29,230 --> 00:27:26,930 some truth to that story that that 641 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:29,240 gentleman did exist because there's not 642 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:31,970 a lot of names attached to these stories 643 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:33,650 about Port Chatham you know they just 644 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:34,970 say well hunters one of the woods and 645 00:27:39,730 --> 00:27:37,250 they died and there's not a whole lot 646 00:27:42,970 --> 00:27:39,740 you can do with that as far as research 647 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:42,980 goes but find it find out that mr. cam 648 00:27:46,050 --> 00:27:43,510 looking 649 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:46,060 that was a big deal to me and it makes 650 00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,530 it one of my favorite stories because 651 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:48,640 there's actually something there that 652 00:27:56,850 --> 00:27:52,930 you can find mm-hmm can you kind of give 653 00:28:01,320 --> 00:27:56,860 us a roundabout figure the death toll at 654 00:28:03,780 --> 00:28:01,330 four Chatham well from what I understand 655 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:03,790 I mean we've got mr. kam look that's one 656 00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:07,510 and the hunters are referred to in 657 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:10,180 plural so I can only assume it was 658 00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:13,690 probably you know more than a couple so 659 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:16,540 you know the best I can you know without 660 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:19,360 that much more information I can go with 661 00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:21,970 is probably between you know two and 662 00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:28,120 five for sure yeah interesting yeah I 663 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:32,140 mean you know down here in the 48 you 664 00:28:37,620 --> 00:28:34,930 don't hear much about or if anything 665 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:37,630 about Bigfoot attacks they're rock used 666 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:41,890 you know occasionally some but it does 667 00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:44,500 seem that you know especially the 668 00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:47,140 indigenous stories that there are 669 00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:49,510 definitely attacks up there in Alaska I 670 00:28:57,570 --> 00:28:52,750 think some areas of northern Canada as 671 00:29:00,960 --> 00:28:57,580 well yeah there's a native people here 672 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:00,970 named the Kenai see and they have a 673 00:29:05,010 --> 00:29:03,490 creature there they're very you know 674 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:05,020 they live on the peninsula as well and 675 00:29:08,610 --> 00:29:06,910 they have a creature they called the nan 676 00:29:11,540 --> 00:29:08,620 Tina which it's very similar than 677 00:29:14,700 --> 00:29:11,550 antiknock it's just nante Nala and the 678 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:14,710 translation for that is the one who 679 00:29:22,530 --> 00:29:19,930 steals us and that's pretty creepy so 680 00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:22,540 you have heard of kidnappings by these 681 00:29:27,540 --> 00:29:25,420 things yeah there's a very famous story 682 00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:27,550 I believe it was in Alaska Magazine of 683 00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:32,230 the bush pilot who got married and was 684 00:29:36,750 --> 00:29:35,080 flying from Anchorage to another part of 685 00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:36,760 the state with his bride the weather got 686 00:29:44,460 --> 00:29:40,180 rough they put down somewhere on a 687 00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:44,470 sandbar near a river and he was putting 688 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:45,910 up the tent and his wife started 689 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:47,710 screaming and he turns around to see her 690 00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:50,550 being carried off by this big 691 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:54,220 beast on two feet running off and he 692 00:29:58,830 --> 00:29:56,290 gave chasing and couldn't find them and 693 00:30:00,480 --> 00:29:58,840 yeah I haven't found any solid 694 00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:00,490 documentation or police report on that 695 00:30:05,550 --> 00:30:01,990 but that's a pretty popular story that 696 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:05,560 makes the rounds up here now the 697 00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:10,210 morphology of a Bigfoot Sasquatch or 698 00:30:14,910 --> 00:30:13,270 whatever you want to call them is it 699 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:14,920 much different than what we have down 700 00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:18,970 here in the 48th lower 48 you know there 701 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:20,830 doesn't seem to be a lot of difference 702 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:24,490 I've heard of you know black colored 703 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:28,420 ones the red colored ones and you know 704 00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:30,490 even I haven't heard of any white ones 705 00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:32,470 though you know like a Yeti colored so 706 00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:34,870 yeah I think they're they're probably 707 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:37,630 it's probably pretty similar I think 708 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:41,170 that I one thing I can't figure it out 709 00:30:46,590 --> 00:30:44,170 is how they survived the the winners I 710 00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:46,600 mean I guess if moose and bear can then 711 00:30:51,660 --> 00:30:49,080 you know I guess Bigfoot can as well but 712 00:30:54,030 --> 00:30:51,670 it's just it just amazes me that 713 00:30:56,730 --> 00:30:54,040 something like that can survive in 714 00:31:00,300 --> 00:30:56,740 weather and like that we have up here 715 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:00,310 and not just just died of exposure 716 00:31:04,170 --> 00:31:02,650 especially you know since they have 717 00:31:06,810 --> 00:31:04,180 fingers and toes why don't they get 718 00:31:08,730 --> 00:31:06,820 frost bite me I mean and I've thought 719 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:08,740 about that myself it's not like they 720 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:11,110 have a lot of fat stored on them from 721 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:13,330 you know from what people have said they 722 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:16,330 seen you know they have a coat of hair 723 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:19,930 to a degree but you know Alaskan winters 724 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:23,170 are pretty pretty tough one you know and 725 00:31:26,820 --> 00:31:24,760 you know of course other animals 726 00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:26,830 indigenous animals bear moose or 727 00:31:33,690 --> 00:31:29,080 whatever they've all got a layers of fat 728 00:31:36,570 --> 00:31:33,700 that protect them basically so it does 729 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:36,580 seem it is interesting at yeah you're 730 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:38,770 right about the frost plate that that is 731 00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:42,610 interesting yeah I do have a little you 732 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:44,680 know just a theory I don't really have 733 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:46,390 anything to substantiate it but I think 734 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:50,320 that they must have a denser muscle 735 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:53,050 system or or something because you know 736 00:31:56,820 --> 00:31:54,970 you hear about all these all these 737 00:31:59,130 --> 00:31:56,830 stories about people taking shots at 738 00:32:01,770 --> 00:31:59,140 them and they just run off and I know I 739 00:32:03,570 --> 00:32:01,780 hit it you know and there's no there's 740 00:32:06,030 --> 00:32:03,580 no blood or anything so 741 00:32:07,770 --> 00:32:06,040 I think they I mean they must have you 742 00:32:09,450 --> 00:32:07,780 know if they've got denser muscles that 743 00:32:12,270 --> 00:32:09,460 would almost act like a natural Kevlar 744 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:12,280 you know and and disperse the the force 745 00:32:16,260 --> 00:32:14,650 of bullets that hit them so I think that 746 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:16,270 I mean it's I guess it's as good a 747 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:18,690 theory as anything else you know yeah 748 00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:22,210 yeah we hear that too but I I don't know 749 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:24,430 I don't know you know I personally 750 00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:26,530 believe in particularly some areas here 751 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:28,630 in the lower 48 that there's a 752 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:31,930 supernatural aspect these creatures but 753 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:35,050 I I think up where you are these things 754 00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:37,570 are they're indigenous flesh-and-blood 755 00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:42,310 beings I'm quite sure that you know I 756 00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:44,350 even when I first got into this I 757 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:46,420 thought for sure they were you know 758 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:49,510 flesh and blood and I I still I still do 759 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:52,150 but when I was down in Washington 760 00:32:55,410 --> 00:32:53,650 recently I had some things happen to me 761 00:32:59,970 --> 00:32:55,420 there I was kind of made me question 762 00:33:03,150 --> 00:32:59,980 that and I I try to keep an open mind 763 00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:03,160 but right I'm I don't want to just 764 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:06,070 completely just start you know you 765 00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:09,610 whether they say you can't answer you 766 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:11,020 know a question with a question you know 767 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:14,650 like what are they so I think that until 768 00:33:20,610 --> 00:33:15,970 I see one 769 00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:20,620 you know cloak or D materialize or pop 770 00:33:24,170 --> 00:33:22,060 out of a portal that I'm still going to 771 00:33:26,340 --> 00:33:24,180 be a pretty firm a flesh-and-blood guy 772 00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:26,350 well you know I've talked a lot of 773 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:29,950 people indeed over the years and I know 774 00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:32,290 a lot of them that are much more of a 775 00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:33,880 money than they used to be 776 00:33:39,270 --> 00:33:36,760 frankly because they never find a body 777 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:39,280 they're just so elusive and I've 778 00:33:42,690 --> 00:33:40,930 actually talked to people that had been 779 00:33:45,930 --> 00:33:42,700 tracking these things and it just 780 00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:45,940 suddenly disappear on I mean and there's 781 00:33:52,050 --> 00:33:50,110 no there's no rhyme or reason how they 782 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:52,060 can just disappear in the train that 783 00:33:58,890 --> 00:33:54,970 they're actually in I mean that specific 784 00:34:01,080 --> 00:33:58,900 terrain so I don't know that there's I 785 00:34:03,270 --> 00:34:01,090 think there's a connection between a lot 786 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:03,280 of different things when it comes to 787 00:34:08,910 --> 00:34:06,250 cryptids but you know I guess until we 788 00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:08,920 really prove it and you know we're left 789 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:13,230 to to imagine what it very well may be 790 00:34:17,010 --> 00:34:15,850 yeah and you know I I didn't really 791 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:17,020 mention with port 792 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:19,330 there's other things going on there as 793 00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:21,760 well they had the dark lady did I tell 794 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:23,230 you about that yeah go ahead and tell me 795 00:34:27,690 --> 00:34:26,050 about that so her didn't mention in the 796 00:34:30,750 --> 00:34:27,700 movie but I didn't really know what it 797 00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:30,760 was yeah so there is a legend that 798 00:34:36,210 --> 00:34:33,250 there's a lady that comes out of the 799 00:34:38,909 --> 00:34:36,220 cliffs and walks around on the beach and 800 00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:38,919 a dark or black dress and the the dress 801 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:41,500 like flows behind her and drags on the 802 00:34:46,740 --> 00:34:43,810 beach and she kind of floats around and 803 00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:46,750 goes back into the cliffs and they call 804 00:34:52,740 --> 00:34:50,590 her the dark lady well there's also this 805 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:52,750 is probably my favorite non Bigfoot 806 00:34:57,870 --> 00:34:55,210 story out of port Chatham there was a 807 00:34:59,760 --> 00:34:57,880 story of a gentleman who came in to the 808 00:35:01,980 --> 00:34:59,770 port south on one day and he was tying 809 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:01,990 his boat up at the dock and he was 810 00:35:07,140 --> 00:35:03,820 walking down the dock to go to the town 811 00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:07,150 and he passed a group of Native children 812 00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:09,460 sitting on the on the edge of the dock 813 00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:10,630 and he walked past them and he thought 814 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:12,040 man that was kind of what cuz this is 815 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:13,690 back in the you know 30s and 40s when 816 00:35:17,970 --> 00:35:15,790 you know back when people said you know 817 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:17,980 sir and ma'am and you know kids 818 00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:21,730 respected their elders and he walked 819 00:35:24,270 --> 00:35:23,080 past those kids I didn't say nothin to 820 00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:24,280 him he thought man that's kind of weird 821 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:25,750 and he turned back around to look at him 822 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:27,450 and they were gone Hey 823 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:29,650 so there's a little bit more going on a 824 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:33,010 porch hath on than just Bigfoot yeah you 825 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:35,950 know I I imagine when you were there you 826 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:40,210 probably got that instinct or that funny 827 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:42,130 feeling that there's a lot more going on 828 00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:43,930 around here than just Bigfoot running 829 00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:46,390 around yeah you know I've thought about 830 00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:49,300 it quite a bit lon and I think you know 831 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:50,760 if you're if you're familiar with 832 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:54,130 skinwalker ranch right and that story 833 00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:56,890 you know remember when they moved into 834 00:36:00,420 --> 00:35:58,690 the ranch for the first time the the 835 00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:00,430 previous owners said well what did we do 836 00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:04,780 don't dig and remember when when I was 837 00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:07,000 talking about porch atham there was a 838 00:36:10,650 --> 00:36:09,580 Croma by mine and a coal mine right 839 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:10,660 there mm-hmm 840 00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:12,730 so it almost makes me wonder if the if 841 00:36:16,170 --> 00:36:15,070 the mining and the in the taking of the 842 00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:16,180 you know resources out of the ground 843 00:36:20,070 --> 00:36:17,680 might have had something to do with it 844 00:36:22,530 --> 00:36:20,080 you know it's possible 845 00:36:26,430 --> 00:36:22,540 I mean chromite that's pretty dangerous 846 00:36:29,810 --> 00:36:26,440 stuff be and I had to be some problems 847 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:29,820 with that you would think 848 00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:32,730 I don't know I mean maybe nature fights 849 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:38,040 back or whatever yeah that's that's kind 850 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:40,410 of what I was thinking is maybe these 851 00:36:46,580 --> 00:36:42,510 kind of events is kind of nature's 852 00:36:51,770 --> 00:36:46,590 immune system or Nature's Way of saying 853 00:36:54,590 --> 00:36:51,780 don't do that so what do you believe is 854 00:36:57,470 --> 00:36:54,600 the future Bigfoot in Alaska do you 855 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,480 think it's gonna become something you 856 00:37:01,790 --> 00:36:59,040 know more people are going to get 857 00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:01,800 involved in investigating these vast 858 00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:05,880 areas I mean what comes to your head 859 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:07,470 what makes you what what do you think 860 00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:10,710 about it you know I I think you know 861 00:37:15,530 --> 00:37:13,470 with a lot of things Alaska is the the 862 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:15,540 final frontier or the last frontier and 863 00:37:19,940 --> 00:37:16,770 I think probably it's the same with 864 00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:19,950 bigfooting it's it's hard to get up here 865 00:37:24,650 --> 00:37:21,870 and it's hard you know it's expensive to 866 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:24,660 live here so you know there's not going 867 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:26,880 to be a lot of people coming up here to 868 00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:27,960 do just that 869 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:29,430 there may be some people that already 870 00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:33,210 live here that get interested in it and 871 00:37:37,490 --> 00:37:35,190 get into it but I don't see a lot of 872 00:37:41,540 --> 00:37:37,500 people you know coming up here to do 873 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:41,550 just that uh-huh you know and that's 874 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:42,450 understandable 875 00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:44,490 I know it is expensive to live up it 876 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:49,380 yeah people don't realize how massive it 877 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:53,370 is either Alaska is huge and it always 878 00:37:57,020 --> 00:37:54,810 cracks me up something will happen 879 00:38:00,020 --> 00:37:57,030 there'll be a volcano eruption or a 880 00:38:01,970 --> 00:38:00,030 forest fire and I'll have family from 881 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:01,980 Kentucky call me and ask me are you okay 882 00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:04,530 are you all right not like that that is 883 00:38:08,570 --> 00:38:06,390 so far away for me it doesn't even 884 00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:08,580 matter I said that would be like me call 885 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:11,220 and you in Kentucky and asking you if 886 00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:12,480 you're safe from the hurricane in 887 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:17,760 Florida it is like it is a huge state I 888 00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:24,510 mean so what what do you have planned in 889 00:38:29,390 --> 00:38:26,670 the future as far as I mean I think you 890 00:38:32,210 --> 00:38:29,400 did mention to me that you are involved 891 00:38:35,210 --> 00:38:32,220 in another production do you have any 892 00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:35,220 plans to write or do anything else as 893 00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:38,880 far as your research I am working on a 894 00:38:42,350 --> 00:38:41,520 book on port Chatham I don't have a 895 00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:42,360 timeline 896 00:38:47,810 --> 00:38:46,110 for its it started but it's pretty you 897 00:38:49,490 --> 00:38:47,820 know the research in that is pretty 898 00:38:51,290 --> 00:38:49,500 labor-intensive just because it's hard 899 00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:51,300 to find the records and they're so old 900 00:38:57,860 --> 00:38:54,870 and scattered so I do have a book on 901 00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:57,870 port Chatham coming eventually mm-hmm I 902 00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:00,960 do have a couple of productions coming 903 00:39:06,380 --> 00:39:03,870 up just recently I mentioned I was in 904 00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:06,390 Washington I was back down there with 905 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:08,640 extreme expeditions we did some filming 906 00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,380 in a place called Stephens County down 907 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:13,440 there with Bigfoot Stevens County and at 908 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:15,450 some time I think I think it's coming 909 00:39:20,450 --> 00:39:17,250 out early next year or maybe spring a 910 00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:20,460 next year there's a documentary called 911 00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:21,990 Bigfoot encounters in the Pacific 912 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:24,270 Northwest that's coming out we've 913 00:39:30,140 --> 00:39:25,650 already filmed that or at least the 914 00:39:32,330 --> 00:39:30,150 first part of that and then I believe on 915 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:32,340 the 3rd of this month there's a show 916 00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:33,900 premiering on the Travel Channel called 917 00:39:41,540 --> 00:39:37,200 the Alaska triangle there's a episode of 918 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:41,550 that were Adam Davies Stephen major 919 00:39:46,430 --> 00:39:43,530 myself actually you took a film crew 920 00:39:48,140 --> 00:39:46,440 over to port Chatham so there's going to 921 00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,150 be some more port Chatham action there 922 00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:50,640 I'm not sure what date that episode is 923 00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:52,230 going to air but I think it might 924 00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,520 actually be the last episode of the 925 00:39:58,780 --> 00:39:55,680 series it's like a 10 episode series so 926 00:40:01,520 --> 00:39:58,790 that's coming out sometime next month 927 00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:01,530 interesting well I'm never gonna watch 928 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:06,750 it cuz I tell you idea the stories and 929 00:40:09,620 --> 00:40:08,490 phenomena that come out Alaska really 930 00:40:14,510 --> 00:40:09,630 fascinated me 931 00:40:18,190 --> 00:40:14,520 I know in ken gerhart and the other two 932 00:40:21,230 --> 00:40:18,200 gentlemen were involved with that show 933 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:21,240 you know missing in Alaska I think the 934 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:23,130 name of was that some pretty interesting 935 00:40:27,710 --> 00:40:26,130 things and I know he had some issues 936 00:40:31,330 --> 00:40:27,720 when he was up there 937 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:31,340 I broke his ankle up in one episode and 938 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:34,410 he told me that the other episode when 939 00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:35,520 they they thought they were actually 940 00:40:42,050 --> 00:40:38,310 being stalked by Bigfoot and I think 941 00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:42,060 that was on the Kenai Peninsula it look 942 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:44,430 it seemed to me like yeah there's a lot 943 00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:46,170 going on up there you know it is very 944 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:49,380 interesting to watch yeah Alaska is a 945 00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:52,110 dangerous place I there's a funny 946 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:55,240 cartoon done by a guy that 947 00:40:59,359 --> 00:40:57,130 it's from Alaska it's called tundra and 948 00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,369 he has a little cartoon where these 949 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:01,599 tourists are coming out of a bus and 950 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:02,710 they're like we're running up to bears 951 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:04,690 and and taking pictures of the Bears and 952 00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:07,330 it says it says Alaska step off the bus 953 00:41:11,329 --> 00:41:09,849 and into the food chain yeah yeah 954 00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:11,339 exactly 955 00:41:20,849 --> 00:41:18,910 when you do investigations do you do you 956 00:41:24,030 --> 00:41:20,859 ever forget the indigenous people 957 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:24,040 involved with it I've you know I've 958 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:25,450 reached out to a couple of the local 959 00:41:32,599 --> 00:41:28,570 tribes and asked them to share stories 960 00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:32,609 and I think both times that I've kind of 961 00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:35,020 prodded and asked you know I've been 962 00:41:40,589 --> 00:41:37,660 politely told no they they don't like to 963 00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:40,599 speak about it especially the nan Tanakh 964 00:41:45,570 --> 00:41:43,510 and a lot of the reason for that is they 965 00:41:47,250 --> 00:41:45,580 they think just just to speak the name 966 00:41:49,410 --> 00:41:47,260 just to say the word nan Tanaka is 967 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:49,420 basically to invite it to you or to call 968 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:50,950 it to you so they don't like to talk 969 00:41:55,410 --> 00:41:53,290 about it yeah I could understand that I 970 00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:55,420 have done investigations I've been part 971 00:42:04,950 --> 00:41:59,920 of investigations in some reservations 972 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:04,960 some Native American reservations and it 973 00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:08,770 seems like the older generation it just 974 00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:10,780 feels like they're asking for trouble 975 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:13,599 when they start telling stories it's 976 00:42:19,140 --> 00:42:17,010 kind of kept in but kept between them 977 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:19,150 but it seems a lot of the younger get 978 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,970 kids now they're kind of coming out and 979 00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:24,160 trying and telling people about this to 980 00:42:29,849 --> 00:42:27,180 the chagrin of their their forefathers 981 00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:29,859 yeah we had actually stopped at Port 982 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:31,630 Graham on our way to port Chatham last 983 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:34,570 time and with the film crew from the 984 00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:37,270 Travel Channel and we were hoping to 985 00:42:41,130 --> 00:42:39,000 speak with some of the residents there 986 00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,140 some of the people that fled port 987 00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:43,359 Chatham moved to Port Graham his actual 988 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:46,510 real life far away and we got there you 989 00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,010 know we were kind of unannounced and we 990 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,800 showed up in town and you know we asked 991 00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:52,480 a couple of people hey you know you know 992 00:42:56,099 --> 00:42:54,760 we want to talk about Bigfoot and 993 00:42:59,460 --> 00:42:56,109 Antonacci know can you tell us some 994 00:43:01,230 --> 00:42:59,470 stories and a gentleman finally showed 995 00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:01,240 up in a pickup truck said I'll go talk 996 00:43:04,380 --> 00:43:03,160 to the tribal chief you know and be back 997 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:04,390 with and he showed up a few minutes 998 00:43:08,609 --> 00:43:07,690 later and I guess they'd had a village 999 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:08,619 elder died 1000 00:43:13,739 --> 00:43:11,410 the night before or very recently anyway 1001 00:43:16,140 --> 00:43:13,749 and he said yeah the chief says no 1002 00:43:17,849 --> 00:43:16,150 stories today so we didn't get to talk 1003 00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:17,859 with anybody it was kind of 1004 00:43:25,739 --> 00:43:21,400 disappointing I was going to ask you if 1005 00:43:29,939 --> 00:43:25,749 any the the relatives of the people that 1006 00:43:33,269 --> 00:43:29,949 lived in port lock in Port Chad then 1007 00:43:36,479 --> 00:43:33,279 have ducked and kind of come forward 1008 00:43:40,799 --> 00:43:36,489 with any information there's a there's a 1009 00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:40,809 lady that lives in nan Wallach it's a 1010 00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:43,839 village across from Port Graham 1011 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:47,140 basically and she was actually born in 1012 00:43:53,009 --> 00:43:50,249 Port Chatham and parities yeah and 1013 00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:53,019 there's a few interviews with her online 1014 00:43:56,459 --> 00:43:54,609 and I hope one of these days to be able 1015 00:43:58,289 --> 00:43:56,469 to interview her myself she's actually I 1016 00:44:01,439 --> 00:43:58,299 need to get on it because she's getting 1017 00:44:04,589 --> 00:44:01,449 hung up there in years but yeah there's 1018 00:44:06,269 --> 00:44:04,599 a few YouTube videos I can't I don't 1019 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:06,279 have her name available right in front 1020 00:44:11,819 --> 00:44:08,650 of me but if you just you know search 1021 00:44:13,919 --> 00:44:11,829 for nan Wallach elder or nan Tanakh you 1022 00:44:15,089 --> 00:44:13,929 should be able to find it but yeah 1023 00:44:16,499 --> 00:44:15,099 there's a there's a few people that were 1024 00:44:19,739 --> 00:44:16,509 actually born in Port Chaplin that are 1025 00:44:22,849 --> 00:44:19,749 still kicking her own mm-hmm that would 1026 00:44:25,049 --> 00:44:22,859 be a pretty interesting resource 1027 00:44:27,630 --> 00:44:25,059 especially since a problem aunt told 1028 00:44:32,099 --> 00:44:27,640 stories why they were kids of some of 1029 00:44:33,439 --> 00:44:32,109 the activity it did get her there that's 1030 00:44:37,140 --> 00:44:33,449 that's interesting 1031 00:44:41,819 --> 00:44:37,150 so do you investigate any other 1032 00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:41,829 phenomena around can I not actively you 1033 00:44:45,989 --> 00:44:43,839 know I don't go out in search of it but 1034 00:44:47,189 --> 00:44:45,999 if I if something if I hear about 1035 00:44:50,609 --> 00:44:47,199 something or something pops up on my 1036 00:44:53,459 --> 00:44:50,619 radar I'll go check it out there's a 1037 00:44:55,650 --> 00:44:53,469 cemetery in the city of Kenai that's 1038 00:44:57,390 --> 00:44:55,660 said to be haunted and I went there a 1039 00:44:58,859 --> 00:44:57,400 couple of Halloween's to get well wasn't 1040 00:45:02,160 --> 00:44:58,869 on Halloween but it was near Halloween 1041 00:45:04,169 --> 00:45:02,170 just uh just to kick around and you know 1042 00:45:07,469 --> 00:45:04,179 took a audio recorder and tried to get 1043 00:45:09,179 --> 00:45:07,479 some EVPs and I didn't get any EVPs but 1044 00:45:12,289 --> 00:45:09,189 oddly enough right in the middle of my 1045 00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:12,299 my little exploration there my my 1046 00:45:16,169 --> 00:45:14,529 recorder just up and died on me with 1047 00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:16,179 fresh batteries so that was kind of 1048 00:45:21,330 --> 00:45:16,800 weird 1049 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:21,340 mmm yeah I did an investigation several 1050 00:45:28,050 --> 00:45:24,970 years ago you know I wouldn't I wasn't 1051 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:28,060 in Alaska but III do a series of 1052 00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:30,720 interviews with a couple people that 1053 00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:34,300 lived in it's it's it was north further 1054 00:45:40,830 --> 00:45:38,980 north up the coast from can I was and I 1055 00:45:42,540 --> 00:45:40,840 forget the name of the village but they 1056 00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:42,550 were right on the they're right on the 1057 00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:46,390 shoreline and some of the phenomena that 1058 00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:50,230 occurred there was just really weird I 1059 00:45:56,540 --> 00:45:53,230 mean it was to point that that they were 1060 00:46:00,540 --> 00:45:56,550 calling it a la la' five in the thigh 1061 00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:00,550 leviathan type creature that would come 1062 00:46:06,270 --> 00:46:03,670 out at night they were they were telling 1063 00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:06,280 me about them going out you know on the 1064 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:09,760 snow in snowmobiles at night and this 1065 00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:12,330 thing be chasing them all over the place 1066 00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:15,520 now oh you know yeah have you heard 1067 00:46:21,570 --> 00:46:18,640 anything similar to that I've heard of 1068 00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:21,580 you know bigfoot-type creatures chasing 1069 00:46:31,590 --> 00:46:26,910 snow machines yeah yeah I've heard of 1070 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:31,600 you know Bigfoot coming up to cabins and 1071 00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:33,970 and slapping the sides of cabins you 1072 00:46:36,510 --> 00:46:35,200 know pretty pretty typical Bigfoot 1073 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:36,520 behavior that you hear of in the lower 1074 00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:37,330 48 1075 00:46:41,010 --> 00:46:39,670 right um the one thing that I kind of do 1076 00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:41,020 think is lacking up here is we don't 1077 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:43,830 hear about a whole lot of tree knocks I 1078 00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:46,330 think there was one I thought I heard on 1079 00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:48,400 port Chatham but I wasn't sure but other 1080 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:49,750 than that I've never heard of tree knock 1081 00:46:54,060 --> 00:46:51,090 up here I've heard him in Washington 1082 00:46:55,620 --> 00:46:54,070 right I ain't know that thought that was 1083 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:55,630 something I was interesting to film it 1084 00:46:59,700 --> 00:46:57,130 swig because you guys did a lot of tree 1085 00:47:02,550 --> 00:46:59,710 knocking and it's just something you 1086 00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:02,560 don't hear about a lot of up in Alaska 1087 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:07,030 as far as drawing Bigfoot yeah you know 1088 00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:10,090 and I don't think I've kind of stopped 1089 00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:12,100 doing it I've taken it out of my little 1090 00:47:16,980 --> 00:47:15,040 bag of tricks cuz yeah because I you 1091 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:16,990 know if they don't do it then what what 1092 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:19,050 goods are gonna do for me to do it yeah 1093 00:47:23,610 --> 00:47:21,850 yeah I mean I guess there's there's two 1094 00:47:27,170 --> 00:47:23,620 sides to that I mean I know there are 1095 00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:27,180 some researchers that swear by it but 1096 00:47:30,450 --> 00:47:29,980 I'll be honest with you I have never 1097 00:47:32,670 --> 00:47:30,460 heard 1098 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:32,680 tree knocking out in the field I mean 1099 00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:34,890 the many years I've been out there 1100 00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:37,390 that's just something I never really 1101 00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:39,760 heard myself heard a lot of roaring a 1102 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:41,710 lot of screaming a lot of other things 1103 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:43,510 but I've never heard anything actually 1104 00:47:48,329 --> 00:47:46,690 banging on trees yeah I I heard some 1105 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:48,339 really good tree knocks in Washington 1106 00:47:53,250 --> 00:47:51,490 but most of those were just you know it 1107 00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:53,260 wasn't in response to anything we did it 1108 00:47:59,339 --> 00:47:57,280 was just on on its own one one technique 1109 00:48:02,130 --> 00:47:59,349 that I want to employ up here that I 1110 00:48:03,930 --> 00:48:02,140 just haven't quite had the the the guts 1111 00:48:05,490 --> 00:48:03,940 to do yet I'll be honest and tell you I 1112 00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:05,500 haven't had the guts to do it is I want 1113 00:48:10,829 --> 00:48:08,910 to play a baby crying mmm yeah 1114 00:48:14,730 --> 00:48:10,839 are you think it would attract 1115 00:48:17,099 --> 00:48:14,740 impossibly yeah I think so I would hope 1116 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:17,109 so but that's that's something I want to 1117 00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:19,570 do but I don't want to do it where I'm 1118 00:48:25,230 --> 00:48:23,080 in a position where I can't get away you 1119 00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:25,240 know if I that I can't take a retreat I 1120 00:48:29,130 --> 00:48:27,070 don't want to go set out in the middle 1121 00:48:31,650 --> 00:48:29,140 of the woods and do it you know with no 1122 00:48:34,589 --> 00:48:31,660 means of escape I agree with you I I 1123 00:48:36,870 --> 00:48:34,599 yeah I could agree with that have you 1124 00:48:38,490 --> 00:48:36,880 ever done any gifting or you know I I 1125 00:48:40,650 --> 00:48:38,500 heard a lot of stories about gifting and 1126 00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:40,660 such you you but have you ever done like 1127 00:48:45,810 --> 00:48:44,230 that laid something out and maybe notice 1128 00:48:47,579 --> 00:48:45,820 that it was taken or something was left 1129 00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:47,589 behind have you ever noticed any 1130 00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:51,040 activity like that no you know and of 1131 00:48:54,089 --> 00:48:52,510 course you know porch hath on my time 1132 00:48:55,290 --> 00:48:54,099 they're so limited I don't really you 1133 00:48:57,690 --> 00:48:55,300 know I haven't really had a chance to 1134 00:49:00,359 --> 00:48:57,700 try that there yet yeah but some of the 1135 00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:00,369 other areas I've tried or researched in 1136 00:49:04,589 --> 00:49:02,550 I haven't I haven't done that I haven't 1137 00:49:07,770 --> 00:49:04,599 gifted anything but of course you know 1138 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:07,780 we have a lot of other animals here that 1139 00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,050 I think could be you know rodents and 1140 00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:13,839 squirrels and stuff so I have I have a 1141 00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:16,030 you know if something for gifting to 1142 00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:17,080 work for me I would have to get 1143 00:49:23,070 --> 00:49:21,040 something back so if I put something 1144 00:49:24,690 --> 00:49:23,080 down and it's gone and I'd have to have 1145 00:49:26,450 --> 00:49:24,700 video of the Bigfoot taking it before I 1146 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:26,460 would think it was involved with Bigfoot 1147 00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:29,410 now you had matches something before the 1148 00:49:36,270 --> 00:49:33,220 show to me in reference to the film that 1149 00:49:39,630 --> 00:49:36,280 didn't make it on the film was that you 1150 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:39,640 found like abandoned TVs and other 1151 00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:42,570 equipment and stuff at a certain area 1152 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:44,590 yeah it was it wasn't 1153 00:49:49,890 --> 00:49:47,050 long after we first got ashore and we 1154 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:49,900 were walking along the the ridgeline 1155 00:49:54,750 --> 00:49:51,490 there up above you know in the cliffs 1156 00:49:59,130 --> 00:49:54,760 headed towards the town site and we kind 1157 00:50:01,290 --> 00:49:59,140 of found this clearing with like I don't 1158 00:50:03,780 --> 00:50:01,300 recall there being any actual TVs but it 1159 00:50:06,210 --> 00:50:03,790 was like the backs of TVs and like you 1160 00:50:08,370 --> 00:50:06,220 know like just it was junk just just 1161 00:50:10,650 --> 00:50:08,380 jumped like the back of old TVs some old 1162 00:50:13,530 --> 00:50:10,660 stereo like pieces of stereo and stuff 1163 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:13,540 and it was all just kind of just kind of 1164 00:50:18,690 --> 00:50:17,530 piled in this one little area and you 1165 00:50:21,450 --> 00:50:18,700 know we came up on it we thought it was 1166 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:21,460 odd but we didn't really were just like 1167 00:50:25,020 --> 00:50:22,930 oh look at all this junk this is you 1168 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:25,030 know this is weird and we took a picture 1169 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:27,610 of it and we moved on well then you know 1170 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:30,010 hindsight 20/20 I got to thinking about 1171 00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,570 it and I was like how did that crap get 1172 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:33,520 there and why is it there because it 1173 00:50:38,370 --> 00:50:36,310 wasn't like it was on the shoreline 1174 00:50:41,070 --> 00:50:38,380 where it could get washed in by the tide 1175 00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:41,080 this was way up on a you know on a cliff 1176 00:50:47,540 --> 00:50:44,350 mm-hm and it was all bunched together 1177 00:50:49,830 --> 00:50:47,550 all taut you know like in one area and 1178 00:50:52,140 --> 00:50:49,840 the more I think about it the more I 1179 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:52,150 think something put it there yeah it 1180 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:54,010 does seem that way I I told you I've 1181 00:50:59,340 --> 00:50:56,890 heard so many stories of people finding 1182 00:51:01,770 --> 00:50:59,350 you know that would be in a camping spot 1183 00:51:04,290 --> 00:51:01,780 and stump something would be taken and 1184 00:51:06,210 --> 00:51:04,300 they go looking around and it find a 1185 00:51:09,390 --> 00:51:06,220 whole pile of all kinds of different 1186 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:09,400 stuff that it seemed like it was 1187 00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:12,210 something other than a human doing it 1188 00:51:18,330 --> 00:51:15,040 you know and I have rank that maybe 1189 00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:18,340 maybe what's going on yeah I have heard 1190 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:20,830 of that bears will you know they like 1191 00:51:26,060 --> 00:51:22,690 plastic or they'll chew on plastic and I 1192 00:51:29,250 --> 00:51:26,070 I want to throw in that I didn't see any 1193 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:29,260 you know any any chewing or any marks on 1194 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:31,890 any of the stuff that we found right Oh 1195 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:35,170 bear can get into a house and just chew 1196 00:51:39,540 --> 00:51:37,510 it all to hell I mean it's it's pretty 1197 00:51:41,340 --> 00:51:39,550 amazing the damage they can do I've seen 1198 00:51:43,350 --> 00:51:41,350 him getting in the cars and just 1199 00:51:47,010 --> 00:51:43,360 literally destroy the whole car I mean 1200 00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:47,020 it's it's it's amazing yeah a few years 1201 00:51:54,690 --> 00:51:49,630 ago I had a co-worker who his son left 1202 00:51:58,170 --> 00:51:54,700 some discarded McDonald's bags in the in 1203 00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:58,180 his truck and a bear come into his yard 1204 00:52:00,359 --> 00:51:58,450 and 1205 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:00,369 just scratched his new truck all to 1206 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:03,910 pieces my you know it's pretty it's a 1207 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:06,490 pretty funny story because he calls his 1208 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:07,930 insurance company of course they're in 1209 00:52:12,750 --> 00:52:10,570 you know the lower 48 and he's telling 1210 00:52:14,670 --> 00:52:12,760 the lady you know this bear you know 1211 00:52:16,109 --> 00:52:14,680 scratch my truck up you know and in the 1212 00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:16,119 late he didn't believe him he had to 1213 00:52:25,319 --> 00:52:21,190 send them pictures what's in there 1214 00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:25,329 what's the nearest settlement what's the 1215 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:27,310 nearest settlement to port Chatham are 1216 00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:30,490 to portal it port like it would be a 1217 00:52:36,210 --> 00:52:34,030 Port Graham okay and you know you got a 1218 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:36,220 you got to get a boat take a boat to get 1219 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:38,770 there there's there's no road that 1220 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:40,530 connects porch a phone with any place 1221 00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:41,890 Wow 1222 00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,790 it must really be thick beyond yon port 1223 00:52:50,579 --> 00:52:47,680 Chatham I mean it must you I don't know 1224 00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:50,589 how far back you guys went into that 1225 00:52:56,250 --> 00:52:53,940 area but it must be unbelievably thick 1226 00:52:58,890 --> 00:52:56,260 yeah I've never seen anything like it 1227 00:53:02,220 --> 00:52:58,900 you know I grew up running around in the 1228 00:53:03,780 --> 00:53:02,230 woods in Kentucky and I I thought I knew 1229 00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:03,790 my way around woods so I got the porch 1230 00:53:08,579 --> 00:53:05,500 atham and I'd never seen anything like 1231 00:53:11,670 --> 00:53:08,589 it it is just it's it's just a workout 1232 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:11,680 just you know go 15 20 feet usually so 1233 00:53:17,940 --> 00:53:15,010 Wow yeah I mean if you watch the film 1234 00:53:22,050 --> 00:53:17,950 and I I encourage everybody to get it 1235 00:53:24,109 --> 00:53:22,060 you can get it on Amazon Prime and just 1236 00:53:27,329 --> 00:53:24,119 rent it it's very interesting there's 1237 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:27,339 but like you said the terrain itself is 1238 00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:29,890 what really impressed me I don't think 1239 00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:33,670 I've ever seen Moss that thick in one 1240 00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:38,800 area it's just it's just on Baloo yeah 1241 00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:41,470 and you know it's a it's a relatively 1242 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:43,030 you know I think it's like four or five 1243 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:46,900 bucks to rent a movie and it's a world's 1244 00:53:50,730 --> 00:53:49,510 cheaper than to rent it and and get a 1245 00:53:53,550 --> 00:53:50,740 good look at the place than it is to 1246 00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:53,560 actually get up here yeah it is it's 1247 00:54:00,359 --> 00:53:56,800 fascinating and and course it was 1248 00:54:03,690 --> 00:54:00,369 hands-on investigation as well it wasn't 1249 00:54:05,099 --> 00:54:03,700 like your typical documentary where you 1250 00:54:07,770 --> 00:54:05,109 get something flying over and just 1251 00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:07,780 taking pictures but you know I think you 1252 00:54:11,730 --> 00:54:10,569 know I for all any criticism on the side 1253 00:54:14,910 --> 00:54:11,740 I think it was very 1254 00:54:18,750 --> 00:54:14,920 interesting and I'd like for other 1255 00:54:20,730 --> 00:54:18,760 people to see the the FLIR and to see 1256 00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:20,740 that and get their own impression 1257 00:54:24,380 --> 00:54:22,660 because I tell you it's probably the 1258 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:24,390 best one I've ever seen 1259 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:27,130 yeah and you know one of the things that 1260 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:29,650 I'm really proud of was with the 1261 00:54:34,260 --> 00:54:31,330 documentary with the porch awesome show 1262 00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,270 there is that you know there wasn't a 1263 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:36,640 lot of that nothing's staged it if it's 1264 00:54:39,810 --> 00:54:38,170 on the screen it really happened there 1265 00:54:41,490 --> 00:54:39,820 were a couple of times were oh you know 1266 00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,500 maybe the cameraman didn't get this or 1267 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:42,880 didn't get that so we'd have to repeat 1268 00:54:49,980 --> 00:54:45,490 some things but pretty much everything 1269 00:54:51,630 --> 00:54:49,990 that you see is 100% real it's not you 1270 00:54:54,330 --> 00:54:51,640 know there's no script it's not staged 1271 00:54:57,780 --> 00:54:54,340 you know we won it's a real documentary 1272 00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:57,790 it's a real you know it's being filmed 1273 00:55:02,010 --> 00:54:58,690 as it's happening 1274 00:55:02,460 --> 00:55:02,020 mmm-hmm yeah it's good for that really 1275 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:02,470 yes 1276 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:05,410 let me ask you one more thing what's the 1277 00:55:15,210 --> 00:55:08,610 biggest Hal but they caught off the boat 1278 00:55:16,650 --> 00:55:15,220 for the for the documentary there but it 1279 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:16,660 was kind of interesting we're kind of 1280 00:55:22,770 --> 00:55:20,050 getting maybe one foot have a foot and a 1281 00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:22,780 half sized halibuts I wonder if they 1282 00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,510 were hooked in a decent-sized room no 1283 00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:27,520 because they were fishing in import 1284 00:55:32,359 --> 00:55:29,880 Chatham they're in the in the bay I 1285 00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:32,369 think they might have got one that was 1286 00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:34,720 eight or nine pounds I think they got 1287 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:36,910 one that was it was big enough to eat 1288 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:39,250 but if you want to catch the big ones 1289 00:55:44,370 --> 00:55:40,930 you got to go out into the end of the 1290 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:44,380 deep water yeah that's been a dream of 1291 00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:45,850 mine to go up there and good fishing I 1292 00:55:52,550 --> 00:55:48,790 love fly fishing and that'd be great I 1293 00:55:54,810 --> 00:55:52,560 mean I just have a ball up there so 1294 00:55:58,830 --> 00:55:54,820 these I'm gonna thank you for coming on 1295 00:56:01,230 --> 00:55:58,840 the show and before you go how can 1296 00:56:03,510 --> 00:56:01,240 people get in touch with you well they 1297 00:56:05,310 --> 00:56:03,520 can find me on Facebook they can go to 1298 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:05,320 the Kenai Bigfoot research group and 1299 00:56:10,609 --> 00:56:07,450 like that page they can shoot me an 1300 00:56:13,740 --> 00:56:10,619 email at Kenai Bigfoot at gmail.com and 1301 00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:13,750 they can send me a friend request on 1302 00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,230 facebook at Larry beans Baxter and you 1303 00:56:20,849 --> 00:56:19,119 know send me your Alaska encounters if 1304 00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:20,859 you know somebody that had an encounter 1305 00:56:23,970 --> 00:56:22,780 up here or you've had an encounter up 1306 00:56:24,430 --> 00:56:23,980 here let me know because I'd like to 1307 00:56:27,460 --> 00:56:24,440 check it out 1308 00:56:29,620 --> 00:56:27,470 yeah I got a few on me send you I'd like 1309 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:29,630 to see what you say about yeah 1310 00:56:33,370 --> 00:56:30,490 absolutely 1311 00:56:34,990 --> 00:56:33,380 okay well he's thanks again for being on 1312 00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:35,000 the show and I hope to have you back 1313 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:37,520 sometime soon all right lon thank you 1314 00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:38,690 you take care now 1315 00:56:44,290 --> 00:56:42,710 you too now if you've had an unexplained 1316 00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:44,300 encounter or sighting feel free to 1317 00:56:47,830 --> 00:56:45,680 contact me through the famines of 1318 00:56:49,810 --> 00:56:47,840 Monsters blog sleep my books are 1319 00:56:52,450 --> 00:56:49,820 available on amazon.com just search my 1320 00:56:55,060 --> 00:56:52,460 name lawn Strickler and all my titles 1321 00:56:57,340 --> 00:56:55,070 will appear I want to again thank Larry 1322 00:56:59,830 --> 00:56:57,350 beans Baxter for joining me this evening 1323 00:57:02,440 --> 00:56:59,840 and I want to thank you for listening to 1324 00:57:11,940 --> 00:57:02,450 the show good night and have a safe and 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